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Developer cancels contracts with publisher Tripwire following boss' anti-abortion comments

  • CanezzaCanezza304,012
  • Clever JakeClever Jake887,081
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:30
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  • Removed Gamer

    Removed Gamer

    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:36
    Opinions are his own and do not reflect the company's point of view.
  • V3ntilatorV3ntilator243,135
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:41
    RevilingBirch3 said:
    Opinions are his own and do not reflect the company's point of view.
    It's not legal to have a public opinion more if you work in a famous company, so it's better if they all shut up.

    Oh wait... Then they will go back to year 2005 instead and check their irrelevant opinions, so they can get fired in 2021 for 16 a year old opinion.
  • FiveWizzFiveWizz677,833
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:43
    Consequences of actions.

    I just feel sorry for employees that do not share these views that may be impacted. This will have had a very negative impact on employees who work directly for his company. And Be it directly or indirectly this won't have fostered a nice environment for many women to work in.

    He's the one that chose to share these opinions publicly so despite what we say about separating politics from the "art" it's almost impossible at this point to not have an opinion.

    I say with great pride that I couldn't disagree more with his statement.
  • KanchanaburiKanchanaburi1,328,455
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:45
    We don't have to agree on everything. People should be able to voice their opinions and not fear being 'cancelled' But this just another example of companies using their apparent power to silence people who don't collude with the so called popular opinion.
  • V3ntilatorV3ntilator243,135
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:45
    FiveWizz said:
    Consequences of actions.

    I just feel sorry for employees that do not share these views that may be impacted. This will have had a very negative impact on employees who work directly for his company. And Be it directly or indirectly this won't have fostered a nice environment for many women to work in.

    He's the one that chose to share these opinions publicly so despite what we say about separating politics from the "art" it's almost impossible at this point to not have an opinion.

    I say with great pride that I couldn't disagree more with his statement.
    No one seem to give a shit about innocent people losing their jobs over this, because it's more important to punish their boss.
  • The InktoidThe Inktoid2,051,096
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:48
    There was a time when an opinion could be expressed openly. That time long since passed.
  • FiveWizzFiveWizz677,833
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:49
    V3ntilator said:
    FiveWizz said:
    Consequences of actions.

    I just feel sorry for employees that do not share these views that may be impacted. This will have had a very negative impact on employees who work directly for his company. And Be it directly or indirectly this won't have fostered a nice environment for many women to work in.

    He's the one that chose to share these opinions publicly so despite what we say about separating politics from the "art" it's almost impossible at this point to not have an opinion.

    I say with great pride that I couldn't disagree more with his statement.
    No one seem to give a shit about innocent people losing their jobs over this, because it's more important to punish their boss.
    I don't think many think it's more important to punish the boss or one person I just don't think people think about it in the first place. It's an oversight. I.e. people have promised to not buy any more games from that company which could effect people's livelihood as you suggested. All that side is just a shame. I just hope people who need the work can find work elsewhere or that their job isn't impacted too much.

    They may now also need to go and find a job because they simply don't want to work for him anymore. And that blame is on this company owner.
  • SkelixSkelix2,110,275
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:49
    He doesn't disagree with woman's rights, he's just defending unborn babies with hearbeats.
  • Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:49
    Who even cares
    Gamertag created when i was a kid. Havnt been able to think of something original but classy since then.
  • Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:50
    Hurr must scrutinize everyone's thought and instantly severe business links because of a personnal opinion of someone i don't agree with durr
    Gamertag created when i was a kid. Havnt been able to think of something original but classy since then.
  • FiveWizzFiveWizz677,833
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:51, Edited on 06 September 21 at 17:51 by FiveWizz
    KIL AK47DU67 said:
    Who even cares
    .....women (for one example)
  • Removed Gamer

    Removed Gamer

    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:54, Edited on 06 September 21 at 17:54 by
    V3ntilator said:
    RevilingBirch3 said:
    Opinions are his own and do not reflect the company's point of view.
    It's not legal to have a public opinion more if you work in a famous company, so it's better if they all shut up.

    Oh wait... Then they will go back to year 2005 instead and check their irrelevant opinions, so they can get fired in 2021 for 16 a year old opinion.
    You have a point right there; I remember a time where people could disagree and still do business, yet this has all passed and we have gone to virtue signaling, public shaming and thinking that only our ways are the good ways, while saying that we have to be open for other opinions/ways of thinking. I guess society changes, for better or for worse.
  • ShadowRaven9ShadowRaven9429,138
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:55, Edited on 06 September 21 at 17:59 by ShadowRaven9
    RevilingBirch3 said:
    Opinions are his own and do not reflect the company's point of view.
    Perhaps im just "woke" as the kids say, or maybe Im just a little stupid.

    I see the nuance here though that you might not be seeing. Voicing an opinion of pro-life and pro-choice is as divisive as saying "Ya know, (dictator X Y or Z who has many war crimes) wasn't all that bad. Being a sympathizer for something ethically "wrong" casts a bad light on you and the company you work for, plain and simple. But thats only speaking if Tripwire removed their boss (which they didnt)

    In this case, the publisher didnt fire him (hes the boss afterall) a game studio voiced THEIR opinion and walked away from Tripwire which makes the exact point you just made. We all have freedom of speech but the people were speaking to have the exact same freedom.

    Lastly, it would be one thing if an employee said it but the boss, the core foundation of the company revolves around view that a 3rd party doesnt like. Thats sorta like how we all hate Blizz now because of their frat culture. If the shoes were switched, we'd all be angry that Blizz cant have a frat culture lol Its all the same complicate topic.
  • ManicMetalheadManicMetalhead1,366,844
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 17:59, Edited on 06 September 21 at 18:03 by ManicMetalhead
    I genuinely don’t understand his opinion and I never will. I’m fine with differing opinions, but this seriously affects someone else and have no effect on the person with those views.

    I’d personally do the same if I had any kind of say in the company too though. Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.
  • ThreeManager6ThreeManager65,081,151
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:00
    He has the right to share his opinion. I have the right to not purchase his company's products. It works both ways people.
  • yossarianoyossariano592,125
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:00, Edited on 06 September 21 at 18:01 by yossariano
    Does Shipwright not see the irony in their statement and their actions? It may well result in more dominoes falling and not necessarily in their favour. Maybe someone further up the chain will cancel Shipwright, or maybe just lots of people at the bottom... their consumers.

    [ a sentiment I just spotted echoed by the previous astute post ]

    Cancel culture should be rebranded to what Reagan noted it as being a long time ago - liberal fascism :)
    Yossariano
  • RokzarRokzar387,901
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:00
    Skelix said:
    He doesn't disagree with woman's rights, he's just defending unborn babies with hearbeats.
    I wonder if he cares about homeless heartbeats as much
    I'm not quite at the amount of cash to do that method. But I have read about that one before :)
  • SashamorningSashamorning3,612,300
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:00
    Isn't there a forum rule about no politics?

    Do not use the forums to push your own political or ethical agendas. We recognise that video games invite some political and ethical discussion – just keep it on topic.
    Oh yeah. There it is.
    Brevity is the soul of wit. ~W.S. / I guess I'm not witty. ~Sasha
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