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Fallout: New Vegas developer Obsidian wants to return to the wasteland

BlackxRyan1,135,353

Posted on 18 October 22 at 12:53
Some people here are just wrong. New Vegas is by far the best one since Fallout 3 and their other games are also fantastic.

PirateRyanG said:
More of the glitchfest that was well...every Obsidian game ever?
What the hell are you talking about ? They had games with a very short amount of bugs like South Park The Stick of Truth and The Outer Worlds which the main issue was having subtitles too small.
PirateRyanG229,043

Posted on 18 October 22 at 12:56
Sketchy77 said:
PirateRyanG said:
SilentRich69 said:
PirateRyanG said:
Christ. I hope not.

More of the glitchfest that was well...every Obsidian game ever?

Then all the PR releases where they cry that they didn't get paid a bonus for making NV, despite not actually meeting the conditions to get that bonus.
They made the best 3D fallout game of the lot lmao.

This clown.
They also released the most on-the-rails Fallout game ever.

Obsidian games are almost always the same.

They give the illusion of an open world when, in reality, you are playing a game no less freeform than House of the Dead at your local Bowlplex.
Yes the game with the most dialogue choices, roleplaying ability and the most branching narrative is "on the rails".

I assume you played it on a different platform, because you barely got a quarter of the way through the game according to your achievement list lmfao.
Hey, look. It is another TA poster using achievements against somebody's posts.

And yes, I played on a different platform (and another gamertag too)

The route through the game is the same. As I said, it gives you the illusion, but you are railroaded through the same segments.
Lynxien524,059

Posted on 18 October 22 at 13:05
Get Avellone and Swayer back in the mix and I shall pay whatever
Trombonafide1,620,176

Posted on 18 October 22 at 14:18
PirateRyanG said:
SilentRich69 said:
PirateRyanG said:
Christ. I hope not.

More of the glitchfest that was well...every Obsidian game ever?

Then all the PR releases where they cry that they didn't get paid a bonus for making NV, despite not actually meeting the conditions to get that bonus.
They made the best 3D fallout game of the lot lmao.

This clown.
They also released the most on-the-rails Fallout game ever.

Obsidian games are almost always the same.

They give the illusion of an open world when, in reality, you are playing a game no less freeform than House of the Dead at your local Bowlplex.
How is FNV "on rails"? Please explain this.
Martin'Zanza231,804

Posted on 18 October 22 at 15:50
Hopefully not another glorified expansion.
Dstranger1092666,015

Posted on 18 October 22 at 16:37
Which they should be allowed to make another 1 given we won't see a Bethesda developed game for probably around 8 years
Lanceride690,603

Posted on 18 October 22 at 16:38
New Vegas is one of my favorite completions. I would definitely play a sequel.
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IrishBeatdown942,815

Posted on 18 October 22 at 16:49
PirateRyanG said:
Sketchy77 said:
PirateRyanG said:
SilentRich69 said:
PirateRyanG said:
Christ. I hope not.

More of the glitchfest that was well...every Obsidian game ever?

Then all the PR releases where they cry that they didn't get paid a bonus for making NV, despite not actually meeting the conditions to get that bonus.
They made the best 3D fallout game of the lot lmao.

This clown.
They also released the most on-the-rails Fallout game ever.

Obsidian games are almost always the same.

They give the illusion of an open world when, in reality, you are playing a game no less freeform than House of the Dead at your local Bowlplex.
Yes the game with the most dialogue choices, roleplaying ability and the most branching narrative is "on the rails".

I assume you played it on a different platform, because you barely got a quarter of the way through the game according to your achievement list lmfao.
Hey, look. It is another TA poster using achievements against somebody's posts.

And yes, I played on a different platform (and another gamertag too)

The route through the game is the same. As I said, it gives you the illusion, but you are railroaded through the same segments.
So you are saying there is a storyline? How disappointing.
SYst3M0FAd0Wnzz381,835

Posted on 18 October 22 at 17:11
I love fallout, the creator is talented and I hope so.
thatNoseyParker2,003,308

Posted on 18 October 22 at 17:20
PirateRyanG said:
SilentRich69 said:
PirateRyanG said:
Christ. I hope not.

More of the glitchfest that was well...every Obsidian game ever?

Then all the PR releases where they cry that they didn't get paid a bonus for making NV, despite not actually meeting the conditions to get that bonus.
They made the best 3D fallout game of the lot lmao.

This clown.
They also released the most on-the-rails Fallout game ever.

Obsidian games are almost always the same.

They give the illusion of an open world when, in reality, you are playing a game no less freeform than House of the Dead at your local Bowlplex.
Funnily enough, that's what I thought when I played F3 after playing NV. NV was this huge open wasteland with some interiors, but outside you could roam for hours (arguably a downside for autosaves), whilst F3 just debris filled square with loading screen to the next debris filled square.
DrySpongeYT286,497

Posted on 18 October 22 at 17:36
SilentRich69 said:
PirateRyanG said:
Christ. I hope not.

More of the glitchfest that was well...every Obsidian game ever?

Then all the PR releases where they cry that they didn't get paid a bonus for making NV, despite not actually meeting the conditions to get that bonus.
They made the best 3D fallout game of the lot lmao.

This clown.
I don’t think obsidian made fallout 3
Terrene Fire356,243

Posted on 18 October 22 at 18:26
TTDog666 said:
thejadedfalcon said:
TTDog666 said:
While I'd love more Fallout... New Vegas was terrible... much like KOTOR2 they improved elements of the gameplay (in this case such as having to keep weapons in good condition) but dropped the ball with the story and it felt unfinished.
KotOR 2's story is held up as one of the best Star Wars works in existence. No, it wasn't finished due to, once again, Obsidian getting screwed over by rushed deadlines, but what there is is considered to be a damn near flawless deconstruction of the series.
Screwed over on a deadline they said they'd be able to meet? It had the potential to be a great climax... but in the end it was just a mess.
The idea anyone could defend Kotor 2 is laughable, the entire end of the game is just missing, was insanely disappointing at the time after how good 1 was
TTDog666966,980

Posted on 18 October 22 at 19:01
Terrene Fire said:
TTDog666 said:
thejadedfalcon said:
TTDog666 said:
While I'd love more Fallout... New Vegas was terrible... much like KOTOR2 they improved elements of the gameplay (in this case such as having to keep weapons in good condition) but dropped the ball with the story and it felt unfinished.
KotOR 2's story is held up as one of the best Star Wars works in existence. No, it wasn't finished due to, once again, Obsidian getting screwed over by rushed deadlines, but what there is is considered to be a damn near flawless deconstruction of the series.
Screwed over on a deadline they said they'd be able to meet? It had the potential to be a great climax... but in the end it was just a mess.
The idea anyone could defend Kotor 2 is laughable, the entire end of the game is just missing, was insanely disappointing at the time after how good 1 was
The story had potential, and I loved the way your actions influenced other characters behaviour... but the game is just unfinished which ruins the whole package in the end.
Everyone has the right to worship whichever god they want... and I have the right to mock your stupid, ignorant beliefs.
sdutton007506,449

Posted on 18 October 22 at 19:16, Edited on 18 October 22 at 19:26 by sdutton007
PirateRyanG said:
Christ. I hope not.

More of the glitchfest that was well...every Obsidian game ever?

Then all the PR releases where they cry that they didn't get paid a bonus for making NV, despite not actually meeting the conditions to get that bonus.
Obsidian have made (and helped to make) many of the best western RPGs ever made (even before they were called Obsidian).

How about you try making a game with thousands of characters, hundreds of quests all criss-crossing in a very strict timeline without bugs? RPGs are by far the hardest and most complicated games to make and considering how publishers like to rush games out, it's not surprising they have bugs, most of which get fixed down the line.

To avoid this problem in the future, maybe you should stick to playing Peppa Pig?
PirateRyanG229,043

Posted on 18 October 22 at 19:20
sdutton007 said:
To avoid this problem in the future, maybe you should stick to playing Peppa Pig?
Oh no.

Another person that uses Xbox achievements to judge a person.

I am sorry that I let a kid play Peppa Pig on my Xbox.

How absolutely devastating that I let somebody enjoy a game!

Grow up. Child.
sdutton007506,449

Posted on 18 October 22 at 19:27, Edited on 18 October 22 at 19:28 by sdutton007
PirateRyanG said:
sdutton007 said:
To avoid this problem in the future, maybe you should stick to playing Peppa Pig?
Oh no.

Another person that uses Xbox achievements to judge a person.

I am sorry that I let a kid play Peppa Pig on my Xbox.

How absolutely devastating that I let somebody enjoy a game!

Grow up. Child.
Judging by your attitude and insults, Peppa Pig seems perfectly suited to your intellect!

Anyone that sees the comments you've been making on here will know that only one of us needs to grow up!
PirateRyanG229,043

Posted on 18 October 22 at 19:33
sdutton007 said:
PirateRyanG said:
sdutton007 said:
To avoid this problem in the future, maybe you should stick to playing Peppa Pig?
Oh no.

Another person that uses Xbox achievements to judge a person.

I am sorry that I let a kid play Peppa Pig on my Xbox.

How absolutely devastating that I let somebody enjoy a game!

Grow up. Child.
Judging by your attitude and insults, Peppa Pig seems perfectly suited to your intellect!

Anyone that sees the comments you've been making on here will know that only one of us needs to grow up!
My only insult was calling you a child.

What I have posted here goes hand-in-hand with what reviews were saying about NV at the time.

However, the internet seems to have a love-in for Obsidian for some baffling reason, and thus there is no sense in being critical of them in any way.
Stevo6483402,892

Posted on 18 October 22 at 20:06
TTDog666 said:
While I'd love more Fallout... New Vegas was terrible... much like KOTOR2 they improved elements of the gameplay (in this case such as having to keep weapons in good condition) but dropped the ball with the story and it felt unfinished.
Completely agree. Both added some cool stuff but just didn't stand up to their respective previous games. Both are overrated.
Stoke me a clipper, I'll be back for Christmas... Whatever!
sdutton007506,449

Posted on 18 October 22 at 20:47
PirateRyanG said:
sdutton007 said:
PirateRyanG said:
sdutton007 said:
To avoid this problem in the future, maybe you should stick to playing Peppa Pig?
Oh no.

Another person that uses Xbox achievements to judge a person.

I am sorry that I let a kid play Peppa Pig on my Xbox.

How absolutely devastating that I let somebody enjoy a game!

Grow up. Child.
Judging by your attitude and insults, Peppa Pig seems perfectly suited to your intellect!

Anyone that sees the comments you've been making on here will know that only one of us needs to grow up!
My only insult was calling you a child.

What I have posted here goes hand-in-hand with what reviews were saying about NV at the time.

However, the internet seems to have a love-in for Obsidian for some baffling reason, and thus there is no sense in being critical of them in any way.
So the reviews said that ALL obsidian games were on-the-rails "glitchfests"? No. Just no.

Like I said before, many of these games do have bugs which is due to the complexity of the games and they mostly get patched out. Look at the majority of big western RPGs - for example Skyrim, Cyberpunk, Witcher, etc all had plenty of bugs when released. It's an incredibly difficult genre to create and so many player-choices/possibilities to account for.

Many people love Obsidian games (and for good reason in my opinion). If you don't, then don't play them. There's plenty of games that I don't like (for example, Telltale games - if you want to talk about "on-the-rails" games with NO game-altering choices at all, Telltale hit the nail on the head every time imho) but I just ignore them instead of going out of my way to post a personal opinion on related articles that they're bad games as if it's fact.

Out of interest, what western RPGs do you enjoy?
Mr Peanutbubber1,039,908

Posted on 18 October 22 at 20:48
Dstranger1092 said:
Which they should be allowed to make another 1 given we won't see a Bethesda developed game for probably around 8 years
It would be nice to see Fallout as a universe get more attention. Anything that is NOT an MMO, please.

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