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Xbox & Bethesda Showcase no-shows: late 2023 and beyond

  • Alpha QuacksAlpha Quacks544,188
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 06:48
    VideoGameOrb said:
    EvilBilboXBL said:
    Tveilor said:
    The whole event was mostly "look at all the third party titles coming to game pass", sprinkled with a few first party titles. Where's the big announcements for games we have to wait a few years for? What the hell are Microsoft doing? And where's the supposed first party titles Microsoft keep assuring us is under development? Most games listed above were announced 2 years ago and back then they said "we have more games", where are they?
    Is this sarcasm? Did you not read the literal first line of this article?
    Or watch the first 10 minutes of yesterday's presentation?
    I think he forgot that xbox owns Bethesda and is soon to own ABK.
  • Alpha QuacksAlpha Quacks544,188
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 06:50
    rocketguardian said:
    The thing that got me annoyed not being shown was Atomic Heart. It's still slated for this year and is on that 2022-23 release picture Xbox tweeted out. So why wasn't it shown again? More eyes need to be on that game.
    I think under these circumstances, I understand why Atomic Heart is not shown or is not ready. ( I believe it's being made by a Russian studio and they are currently moving).
  • DarethPLDarethPL839,084
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 10:03
    Couldn't care less for anything showed there. I have so many games waiting to start that by the time I'm done, something new will surely get relased.
  • ProjectOasisProjectOasis214,407
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 10:58, Edited on 14 June 22 at 10:59 by ProjectOasis
    Alpha Quacks said:
    VideoGameOrb said:
    EvilBilboXBL said:
    Tveilor said:
    The whole event was mostly "look at all the third party titles coming to game pass", sprinkled with a few first party titles. Where's the big announcements for games we have to wait a few years for? What the hell are Microsoft doing? And where's the supposed first party titles Microsoft keep assuring us is under development? Most games listed above were announced 2 years ago and back then they said "we have more games", where are they?
    Is this sarcasm? Did you not read the literal first line of this article?
    Or watch the first 10 minutes of yesterday's presentation?
    I think he forgot that xbox owns Bethesda and is soon to own ABK.
    Also development for AAA titles usually takes by far longer than 2 years, but that's something a lot of ppl these days don't seem to understand.
  • AllgorhythmAllgorhythm666,640
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 11:30
    Tubbed said:
    Allgorhythm said:
    My fear is that Obsidian has failed to come up with the necessary lore befitting such an ambitious open world RPG. The locales of the much smaller The Outer Worlds had a sameness to them & the game suffered from a cut & paste level design.
    Necessary lore? The Pillars of Eternity universe that Avowed is appearing in already exists.
    We know very little about the game other than it is set in the Pillars of Eternity world of Eora. It takes place on a remote continent &, presumably, there is much to differentiate it from PoE.

    Avowed is not a PoE sequel but a spin-off in the same world. If it turns out just to be a PoE clone, it will give more basis to my fears that Obsidian has bitten off more than it can chew.
  • GarnitoroGarnitoro456,412
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 13:35
    Can't help but raise my eyebrow a little at the State of Decay entry not mentioning the reported workplace issues at Undead Labs (https://kotaku.com/state-of-decay-3-xbox-series-x-s-sexism-m...). Especially given what Ethan Gach's sources for that article had to say about the state of 3's development, and how said issues with management and planning had caused delays.
  • BAMMphilBAMMphil1,522,715
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 13:45
    VGM 007 said:
    What I would say is more alarming to me is how 4 of the big titles are supposedly in stages of development hell. At this point, Everwild might not even be a thing anymore. Perfect Dark has had staffing issues resulting in the need to bring in CD and now who knows with the Embracer deal. Fable sounds like it's struggling as the team is making a new kind of game for them, while also trying to retain the style of the previous studio. Avowed has allegedly been rebooted at least once and in a state of constant change.

    None of those things inspire much confidence at this point. All I can think of is the reports of how Anthem went one way, then another, then rebooted and shoved out of the door. Now I don't think MS has to appease the shareholders as much as EA did just throwing that game out, but still, worrisome.
    Really not looking too good overall yeah. Dont know what it is with MS and their exclusives, but there seems to be some major issues there.
  • GSN LegitGSN Legit987,187
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 18:23
    Still wondering on Gears 6 and Gears Collection remastered
  • JohnnyInterfnkJohnnyInterfnk1,444,695
    Posted on 14 June 22 at 21:04
    Hey look! Every game I was interested in (outside Redfall) is on this list.

    Looks like another long year for me.
  • SmarmySmurfSmarmySmurf424,744
    Posted on 15 June 22 at 04:57
    No bear, no bird, I sleep.
  • Posted on 15 June 22 at 12:42
    Itching for more Fable
  • ArkhaneyArkhaney548,526
    Posted on 15 June 22 at 12:53
    As far as first party titles, I'm a bit dissapointed by a lot of the new Xbox Studios that seem uncapable of get their horses together and finally create something. However, I'm more than happy with the games announced (especially Starfield and Wo Long) and the fact that they are coming day one on Game pass is just insanely amazing!
  • oslo2oslo2143,685
    Posted on 15 June 22 at 13:59
    This is the list of games I'm least interested in.
  • Temple JonesTemple Jones211,452
    Posted on 16 June 22 at 06:04
    GR34TD3STR0Y3R said:
    aliasBushido said:
    GR34TD3STR0Y3R said:
    aliasBushido said:
    Fingers crossed for the Fenix Collection. dance
    Why you hatin on Gears of War: Judgment?
    Who said I was? I actually love that game.
    Fenix isn't in that one IIRC
    Is the collection rumored to only be the main line gears games?
    MC wasn't in Reach yet they added it to the collection they even had the joke achievement "see he is in the game!" with the hidden cameo at the very end. In which case Marcus Fenis IS in Judgment, since you help him and dom from across the rooftops when they need help.
    Edward Temple Jones
  • Temple JonesTemple Jones211,452
    Posted on 16 June 22 at 06:07
    rocketguardian said:
    The thing that got me annoyed not being shown was Atomic Heart. It's still slated for this year and is on that 2022-23 release picture Xbox tweeted out. So why wasn't it shown again? More eyes need to be on that game.
    because of the War in Ukraine they probably are unsure if they will meet the dealine due to unforseen delays, so prolly keeping it close to the chest until it goes gold and they know it can ship, then MS will blast ads for it
    Edward Temple Jones
  • Temple JonesTemple Jones211,452
    Posted on 16 June 22 at 06:12
    Garnitoro said:
    Can't help but raise my eyebrow a little at the State of Decay entry not mentioning the reported workplace issues at Undead Labs (https://kotaku.com/state-of-decay-3-xbox-series-x-s-sexism-m...). Especially given what Ethan Gach's sources for that article had to say about the state of 3's development, and how said issues with management and planning had caused delays.
    I'd wait until several other veritable sources and websites cover it, Kotaku is known to be unreliably bias and will spin an article to meet a narrative. They also being guilty of bad faith journalism many times. Not saying it isnt true, just needs to be fact checked and proofed by more reputable outlets first.
    Edward Temple Jones
  • stumpy493stumpy493238,374
    Posted on 16 June 22 at 12:24
    notoriousJMZ said:
    I was surprised we didn't see or hear anything about Deathloop coming to Xbox after it's console exclusivity ends.
    Legally won't be allowed to until PS5 exclusivity ends.
  • stumpy493stumpy493238,374
    Posted on 16 June 22 at 12:26
    Why does this article assume that almost every XGS game is coming out in late 2023???

    Seems absurd that because you were expecting them now you assume late 2023, that is a 6 month period at best, they aint gonna flood it with as many titles as you suggest here.

    Early 2023 looks pretty busy already, late 2023 will have 2 maybe 3 exclusives max.

    Let MS spread themselves out for a good few years lol
  • I8ITackyticsI8II8ITackyticsI8I1,023,383
    Posted on 17 June 22 at 07:00
    aliasBushido said:
    Fingers crossed for the Fenix Collection. dance
    Yeah this is what I thought was missing from the showcase. Was a bit disappointed because of that. Hopefully more news soon.

    I also started to question what was going on with Fable so glad to see it here, they definitely announced that too early..
  • BalnazzardBalnazzard229,900
    Posted on 17 June 22 at 18:04
    Tveilor said:
    The whole event was mostly "look at all the third party titles coming to game pass", sprinkled with a few first party titles. Where's the big announcements for games we have to wait a few years for? What the hell are Microsoft doing? And where's the supposed first party titles Microsoft keep assuring us is under development? Most games listed above were announced 2 years ago and back then they said "we have more games", where are they?
    All in early production I guess...anyhow I had a feeling for a while now that most of their 1st party games would not be released until late 2023 earliest, many of them later than even that. Overall the lack of 1st party games is exactly why MS went and bought new developers, but the things is they should have started to do it much earlier than 2018. Game development, especially with bigger triple A games takes so many damn years and when MS started to acquire developers, many of them were still finishing or had just finished their last multiplat games. That included Obsidian, Inxile, Double Fine, most of Bethesda studios and so on.

    When most AAA development takes atleast 3 to 4 years, well do the math and then COVID pushed things back even further. Earliest possible date to see any fruits of their studio acquisitions was 2022 and they were supposed to release Starfield and RedFall this year, but both were pushed back to 2023. And one can assume that some of their announced games will see release towards end of 2023, most likely Hellblade II, perhaps Avowed and Fable if we are really optimistic, though I still suspect they along with few others are 2024 releases
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