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Developer cancels contracts with publisher Tripwire following boss' anti-abortion comments

  • MasterChief TomMasterChief Tom2,804,850
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:01
    Oh, wow - can't wait to watch this dumpster fire...

    Just lock it now, mods.
  • Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:02
    If you wanna be pro-life, that's your opinion and its fine. But to thank the Supreme Court for allowing bounties on pregnant women and women who have miscarriages is disgusting.
  • Mr M BurkeMr M Burke136,445
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:03
    It is better not to have an opinion, in my opinion.
  • ShadowRaven9ShadowRaven9429,138
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:04
    Kanchanaburi said:
    We don't have to agree on everything. People should be able to voice their opinions and not fear being 'cancelled' But this just another example of companies using their apparent power to silence people who don't collude with the so called popular opinion.
    Being 'cancelled' is someone having an opinion driven right back against your opinion. If you want everyone to have an opinion, everyone can't win and be right.

    I mentioned it before too, but I think you missed the point where a dev walked way from the publisher boss who made the comment. The only thing cancelled is the publishers chance of making money with the dev. They will both survive if they are truly right in their own view points.

    I was raised to be a person to represent themselves professionally, political entanglement isnt professional, its driving an agenda.
  • Reaper08RReaper08R960,798
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:05
    I don't get it - are people no longer be allowed to be pro-life? Personally I'm pro-choice up to a certain point in a pregnancy, and pro-life after that point. As long as you don't impose these views on your co-workers in one way or the other, you should be free to express whatever view you wish. That's the entertaining thing about this topic - both sides (or both 'extremes' at least) are convinced that they hold the moral high ground over the other.
  • ShadowRaven9ShadowRaven9429,138
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:07
    Gpapito#4922 said:
    Clever Jake said:
    Hi all,

    We wanted to take a moment to remind everyone about our Forum Policy. Please take a moment to review it.

    We want to encourage a healthy discussion that includes a wide array of opinions. If you can communicate your opinion in a civil manner that complies with our updated policy, we will never moderate those posts.

    If your post is deleted, this is the result of violating our forum policy. Your post was not communicated in a civil fashion. It has no bearing on the opinion you are trying to convey.

    Thanks for understanding.
    Bullshit. YOu censor dissenting opinion, im out of here. Adblock back on.
    Oh no, a private company with a forum policy is doing exactly what they have the right to do...

    Bye!
  • lethelerrorlethelerror868,168
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:08, Edited on 06 September 21 at 18:10 by lethelerror
    seems you are not allowed to dissent from the approved opinion, and there are people unable to separate a persons opinions from a company.

    isn't tribalism fun?
  • FireDrake007FireDrake007271,441
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:08, Edited on 06 September 21 at 18:15 by FireDrake007
    It might not just be a political comment but also a matter of religious conviction. One doesn't necessarily have to be a Republican or a rightwing conservative to espouse pro life views.

    It is sad that nowadays one cannot publicly state their stand based on their religious convictions without suffering an attack from those who don't agree with those views.

    I don't think that many on the left realize that they themselves have been victimized by this kind of behavior when they publicly announced their sexual orientation in the past, professed feminits, atheistic or secular views or when they publicly declared pro abortion stands during eras when such views were considered anathema by majority of the population.

    By exhibiting this same kind of behavior, they are showing that they are nothing but hypocrites by boycotting and criticizing those who disagree with them.
  • Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:08, Edited on 06 September 21 at 18:09 by BlackWarPanther
    Never thought I'd see this being covered on TA. I dunno i just always saw this site as one of those 'safe' - (probably not the word im looking for) zone. We get bombarded with these kind of stories all the time all over the Internet. I kinda liked that TA kept out of it
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls, and asks the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer." Javik, Mass Effect 3
  • ShadowRaven9ShadowRaven9429,138
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:08
    Reaper08R said:
    I don't get it - are people no longer be allowed to be pro-life? Personally I'm pro-choice up to a certain point in a pregnancy, and pro-life after that point. As long as you don't impose these views on your co-workers in one way or the other, you should be free to express whatever view you wish. That's the entertaining thing about this topic - both sides (or both 'extremes' at least) are convinced that they hold the moral high ground over the other.
    People are allowed to be Pro-life... but people who are Pro-Choice are allowed to disagree and walk away from those business relationship. I dont see what the big deal is.
  • RadiantViperRadiantViper1,166,710
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:08
    I wonder why TA even bothers to make articles like this. They must enjoy watching the absolute worst of their community come out to spread their generic Gamer™ talking points.
  • Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:09
    There's too many people on the planet anyway. If one or both partners do not want to have a child then it should be dealt with and dealt with swiftly.

    If people weren't so selfish and self-consumed then more people would adopt.

    Regardless of political leanings we should just strive for less misery across the board.
  • RadiantViperRadiantViper1,166,710
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:09
    yossariano said:
    Does Shipwright not see the irony in their statement and their actions? It may well result in more dominoes falling and not necessarily in their favour. Maybe someone further up the chain will cancel Shipwright, or maybe just lots of people at the bottom... their consumers.

    [ a sentiment I just spotted echoed by the previous astute post ]

    Cancel culture should be rebranded to what Reagan noted it as being a long time ago - liberal fascism :)
    Yeah Ronald Reagan was totally against "cancel culture" ... remind me, what did he do about supposed Communists in Hollywood again?
  • V3ntilatorV3ntilator243,135
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:10, Edited on 06 September 21 at 18:11 by V3ntilator
    RevilingBirch3 said:
    V3ntilator said:
    RevilingBirch3 said:
    Opinions are his own and do not reflect the company's point of view.
    It's not legal to have a public opinion more if you work in a famous company, so it's better if they all shut up.

    Oh wait... Then they will go back to year 2005 instead and check their irrelevant opinions, so they can get fired in 2021 for 16 a year old opinion.
    You have a point right there; I remember a time where people could disagree and still do business, yet this has all passed and we have gone to virtue signaling, public shaming and thinking that only our ways are the good ways, while saying that we have to be open for other opinions/ways of thinking. I guess society changes, for better or for worse.
    True. The problem now is that they dig after old opinions that the world ignored 15 years ago, but suddenly matters for no good reason.
    After all, people that were 20 years old back then usually don't have same opinion when they are as a 35 year old. Most people change.

    Why did this have to happen during a world pandemic?
    On top of it, a lot of children songs and books were banned because of BLM during same pandemic.
    Third. All the sex scandals in game companies during the pandemic.
    There is more than this, but i stop here.

    Someone tries to make the world worse in every way possible now. Pandemic made many people weird.
  • ShadowRaven9ShadowRaven9429,138
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:11, Edited on 06 September 21 at 18:14 by ShadowRaven9
    RadiantViper said:
    I wonder why TA even bothers to make articles like this. They must enjoy watching the absolute worst of their community come out to spread their generic Gamer™ talking points.
    Its funny, right before this story I saw this tweet by Microsoft...

    https://twitter.com/Xbox/status/1433903634727718915?ref_src=...

    lol Youre right too, the worst of the community need to spread that hate.

    Edit: Well it is industry news too, it likely wasnt made knowing it would blow up like this.
  • RadiantViperRadiantViper1,166,710
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:12
    FireDrake007 said:
    It might not just be a political comment but also a matter of religious conviction. It is sad that nowadays one cannot publicly state their stand based on their religious convictions without suffering an attack from those who don't agree with those views.

    I don't think that many on the left realize that they themselves have been victimized by this kind of behavior when they publicly announced their sexual orientation or their pro abortion stands during eras when such views were considered anathema by majority of the population.

    By exhibiting this same kind of behavior, they are showing that they are nothing but hypocrites by boycotting those who disagree with them.
    Are you seriously trying to compare people facing oppression for their sexual orientation (ie. something they're born with) with being against abortion to the point of taking away women's rights? What a joke.
  • ShadowRaven9ShadowRaven9429,138
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:13
    Sashamorning said:
    Isn't there a forum rule about no politics?

    Do not use the forums to push your own political or ethical agendas. We recognise that video games invite some political and ethical discussion – just keep it on topic.
    Oh yeah. There it is.
    Not for nothing but the forum policy is for users, not necessarily news writers. Also, it IS industry news. It effects us gamers, devs and publishers all over even if not directly.
  • DarqStalkerDarqStalker1,669,788
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:19
    Perfect Year said:
    There was a time when an opinion could be expressed openly. That time long since passed.
    You can. Doesn't mean there isn't consequence to those opinions and to what you say.
  • FiveWizzFiveWizz677,833
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:21
    Reaper08R said:
    I don't get it - are people no longer be allowed to be pro-life? Personally I'm pro-choice up to a certain point in a pregnancy, and pro-life after that point. As long as you don't impose these views on your co-workers in one way or the other, you should be free to express whatever view you wish. That's the entertaining thing about this topic - both sides (or both 'extremes' at least) are convinced that they hold the moral high ground over the other.
    I think the problem here is they have moved the bar significantly earlier for pro choice. You now cannot terminate after 6 weeks. Many/most people don't even find out until later than this.

    TW. And if that woman is a victim of rape then why should she be forced to keep it. (One example).

    What makes it worse is they have not amended any laws to do with rape. How can they adjust this law without increasing the punishment for the original crime in the first place. Makes no sense.

    Apologies to anyone who didn't want to read about that subject in particular.
  • lethelerrorlethelerror868,168
    Posted on 06 September 21 at 18:21
    DarqStalker said:
    Perfect Year said:
    There was a time when an opinion could be expressed openly. That time long since passed.
    You can. Doesn't mean there isn't consequence to those opinions and to what you say.
    I too like to police peoples thoughts and opinions
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